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for president was a senator from the same state, john kerry of massachusetts. if he had won the presidential election that year, his senate seat would have become open. so the governor of massachusetts, the republican, mitt romney, would have been able to appoint somebody to fill john kerry's senate seat. the mts legislature totally dominated by democrats was cognizant that the governor would probably pick a republican to fill the seat if kerry got elected president. so the massachusetts state legislature decide d to change the law. they changed the law so that only a special election could fill a vacant seat. until then, the seat would have to be empty. mitt romney tried to veto that new law. but the legislature overrode his veto, thereby stripping mitt romney of his power to choose a replacement. that became a mute point because john kerry didn't win so he stayed on as senator. but then fast forward fife years. 2009. new president barack obama, the country embroiled in a big debate over national health reform. those against it were against it to the point of rage. and those wo who wanted i
it great, naming john kerry to replace secretary clinton fits that bill. picking susan rice would be good. picking kerry would be better. since thomas jefferson, the post of secretary of state stands alone in history. despite its nature, a role holding the most stature, but for the president itself. kerry won 252 electoral votes back in 2004 against a sitting chief executive, a wartime president at that. a leading critic of the war in vietnam, a five-time elected senate, the chairman of the senate of foreign relations committee has contacts around the world. he's just the sort of heavyweight obama picked the first time. i say this even as i detest the lynch mob that's thrown itself together this week for ambassador susan rice. the president is right about their bad purposes and bad arguments. they are precisely the same as those used in the swift voting used to keep john kerry from the presidency. they attack her for her early explanation of the horror of benghazi when their real
's an easy pick, pick john kerry, the republicans like one of their own, he's a senator. they also have a political interest in that. if john kerry is elevated to a cabinet position, they eventually has to be a vote in a special election, scott brown just loss. there's a lot of press going on in addition to the president having to make a tough policy choice. >> thank you very much. john king reporting. republicans on capitol hill keep asking the president to show them where he wants to cut not just who he wants to tax. joining us now is the number three man in the senate republican leadership, senator john thune of south dakota. senator, thanks very much for coming in. >> good afternoon, wolf. >> before i get to the fiscal cliff and the taxes, spending cuts, are you ready to make an announcement on how you would vote as far as confirmation of susan rice is concerned if the president nominated her to be secretary of state? >> i'm not ready to make that determination right now. but i do think that her meetings up here have raised lots of questions. and there are more reservations about he
of them. in addition to ambassador rice, some have suggested the president considering senator john kerry. national security adviser tom donilon and on the short list as well, i want to bring in doug brinkley to join us. first of all, thank you very much. put this in perspective, if you have. we've seen this develop over the last couple of days and even the last couple of hours. the critics are not satisfied at all with what they are hearing. is there a point, is there a time now when perhaps the administration is thinking, cut their losses, this is not necessarily the right nominee? >> i would hope that that rubicon occurred today when senator collins turned her back on rice, that was not a good omen for rice becoming secretary of state. it's been a lot of testing and trial balloons making confirmation hearing. she very possibly likely could. but it will be a bruised affair and i'm not sure our country needs that right now. she's a fantastic american, great diplomat, but might be better working in the white house since president obama admires her so much as national security adviser. joh
's won a second term and he needs to make it great. naming john kerry fits that bill. picking susan rice would be good. picking kerry would be better. the secretary of state stands alone had history, holding the most stature but for the president himself. ker are ry won 252 electoral votes against the sitting chief executive, a war time president at that. a leading critic of the war latinoer, a five-time sort the heavyweight that obama picked the first time. i say this even as i detest the lynch mob that's thrown itself together for ambassador susan rice. they are precisely the same as those used in the swift voting to keep john kerry from the presidency. they attack her for her early explanation of the horror of benghazi when the real complaint is something that she had nothing to do about, the death of our ambassador chris stevens. the real complaint was his opposition to the vietnam war on his return. swift voting is now sadly a practiced art. it's character assassination with a head fake. for president obama, the challenge for this week is to make the right pick for the country, not
snow over at defense. i think john kerry has a strong case to make for defense. putting a republican, it works with bob gates it could work again. >> william cohen too. >> absolutely. >> bob kerry for you joe tell me about bob kerry. he lost in the senate race. they owe him a favor? >> they owe him big time. if indiana is going to be the bread basket of the cabinet members, i say let's go outside that particular box. bob kerry of nebraska, war veteran, knows what it's like to be in combat, kind of an innovative thinker president of the new school in new york, very creative outside the box kind of guy to the point you don't know exactly what he's going to say. what's not to like about a wacky secretary of defense. he could be somebody who is -- he is a serious ideas guy someone congress can respect because they know him. he served in the congress many decades. he also is very good credibility on military. >> and somebody who could talk credibly about the weapons system that we need and don't need and convince congress to go along with some of these cuts. >> joe makes a very good argum
. in other words, did worse than john kerry in 2004. paul ryan denies that the president earned a mandate. let's listen. >> the president wins 330-some electoral votes, every battleground state with the exception of north carolina. does barack obama now have a mandate? >> i don't think so because they also re-elected the house republicans. so whether people intend it or not, we have divided government. >> so you don't think there's a mandate here? >> i don't because then they would have put nancy pelosi in charge of the house of representatives. see, i think the ideas we talked about, i think they're popular ideas. >> anyway, it turns out paul ryan is wrong. when you look at the raw vote, voters cast about 400,000 votes more for house democrats than for republicans, and with votes still being counted, as rick said, that's expected to go to a million vote majority. my question is why are they getting into this whole thing? when we have elections, i worked for tip o'neill, tip never came out and said but we have a 40-seat majority in the house and we'll have a bigger one after reagan gets r
. they just want to take down obamas possible secretary of state nominee. >> they want john kerry, because they want to seat to open up in the senate to put scott the brown in there, as well. >> cenk: that's a great point. that's why they call him epic. i call him epic. >> cenk: a movie about getting bin laden but of course, there's controversy. >> the whole world's going to want to know this. >> the republican party characterizing the script and the movie before i had even written a word. >> cenk: that's funny. we're going to talk to mike lacy about that. later, the elbow of the day. i'll tell you what it is. it's republican on republican crime, and it is fun. tell them it's like being nestled in an eight-way, adjustable, heated and ventilated seat surrounded by a 500-watt sound system while floating on a suspension made of billowy clouds. or you could just hand them your keys. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>i jump out of my skin at people when i'm upset. do you share the sense of this corruption based on corruption based on corruption. >>i thin
. they just want to take down obamas possible secretary of state nominee. >> they want john kerry because they want to seat to open up in the senate to put scott the brown in there, as well. >> cenk: that's a great point. that's why they call him epic. i call him epic. >> cenk: a movie about getting bin laden but of course, there's controversy. >> the whole world's going to want to know this. >> the republican party characterizing the script and the movie before i had even written a word. >> cenk: that's funny. we're going to talk to mike lacy about that. later, the elbow of the day. i'll tell you what it is. it's republican on ♪ >> cenk: that's the trailer for zero dark 30, the greatest manhunt in history about how we got bin laden. i love that trailer, you will never find him. wrong again bob, turns out we found him. the movie's coming out on december 19, but you know what? there's controversy surrounding did they have classified information. michael hastings will break it down fours. also an expert in this field his book is called operators the wild inside story of america's war in a
, but unlike say over the last two losers, john mccain and john kerry, he doesn't have a senate seat to go back to. he doesn't have a big base in the party that was with him before he got the nomination. so, maybe he's returning to the life he has ahead which is one more personal and focused on family than politics. >> it's no question this is one nominee who is not going to remain a leader in the party. >> he would have to engage in dramatic actions to be a leader in the party. i say never rule it out. i thought he liked the lifestyle he had before he ran, loves his kids, grandsons, the homes they own. while he grapples with the meaning of his loss he's going to be happy building that southern california mansion and spending time with the kids and also trying to figure out if he does have a place in public life or simply a retired grandfather with a lot of grandchildren he loves. >> and as the party begins to move on, we hear about jeb bush from his son, the fact that jeb bush may be running and jeb bush actually chastising marco rubio for some of the comments that he made in iowa. >> don't yo
, tell him it's going to be okay, and tell him you've been there before, because when john kerry lost, you felt a similar silence of disappointment. and let him know you're there with him. as far as the stuff thing, i would flip it. i would say 100% of american who is want stuff. if you meet someone who's america who doesn't want stuff, then you get suspicious. you see something, you say something. if you don't want stuff, you hate america. it's the stuff-buying season. >> yeah. what if aunt hilda claims the president's re-election has triggered the zombie apocalypse. she might sound like this guy. here it is. >> there's more flexibility now and they remember their enemies. inflation is coming. the fiscal cliff subpoeis comin. the dollar fell last night on the news. your taxes are going up, your health care costs are going up, your religion is going to come under attack. gas, coal, and energy is going to become more expensive. may i highly suggest you get grandfathered in to the second amendment today. >> how do you handle that kind of talk? >> first of all, if your aunt's name really
's won a second term. now he needs to make it great, naming john kerry to replace secretary clinton fits that bill. picking susan rice would be good. picking kerry would be better. since thomas jefferson, the post of secretary of state stands alone inhistory. despite its nature, a role holding the most stature, but for the presiden kerry won 252 electoral votback chief exutive, a aea
another name, john kerry on that list. but again, nothing definite on that. but nonetheless, this is something that has been getting a lot of attention, pushback from senator mccain and other republicans, and now that apparent change in tone, john. >> any sense on why we're seeing that change in tone? because the comments really do appear quite different than what they were saying. >> they do. and you know, we've reached out to senator mccain and others and so far we don't have a clear explanation for what's behind this change. i mean, there's speculation that perhaps this is not a fight, that the senator and other republicans wanted to take on right now. but again, have not been able to nail down why that shift. we're just talking a matter of days between that shift. so something had to have come up. we simply don't know yet why. >> right. susan rice did speak for the first time. we heard her voice for the first time last week or for the first time in a while on & maybe that shook thing up. any comments from the white house? >> nothing yet from the white house. we've reache
rice might be intersvennist than john kerry who's the other potential nominee and maybe take susan rice instead of john kerry. >> when you think of the dynamics on capitol hill and the relationship when from capitol hill to the white house, i mean, what impact do you think a bruising battle over susan rice would be and the other things they're running on? >> exactly. i mean, you know, you could have a three-ring circus or cut down one of the rings and push it to the side and you have got the fiscal cliff going on. you've got issues that have to do with egypt, foreign aid to egypt. you have gaza. why do you want to have another ring there? and start dealing with this confirmation battle which is as wolf pointed out earlier the optics of a confirmation battle with susan rice. african-american woman. two groups that the republican party did not do very well with i might add in the last election. >> acknowledging they need to do better. >> i don't mean to impugn john mccain or lindsey graham for criticizing her. i think they have their reasons and nothing to do with anything other than beng
clinton steps down. also on that list is senator john kerry. we've also heard tom donlin, another name, national security adviser. again, all names that could be put forward by the president. but so far no announcement as to when the president will afford a name. >>> the fiscal cliff, now just 34 days away. meeting with chief executives of some of the biggest companies to gainlg gauge how the looming tax hikes and spending cuts could impact businesses. marisa mayer, ceo of yahoo! is one of those. she made her first public comments since taking the helm and giving birth. she invoked some legendary wisdom. >> in my life there were three things, god, family and the green bay packers, in that order. right? and i think that for me it's god, family and yahoo! in that order. >> mayer was honored at fortune magazine's dinner for the most powerful women. >>> 34-year-old michael dunn facing a murder charge, killing jordan davis in the process. it reportedly sparked over a fight about loud music. it's reminding some of the trayvon martin case. dunn's attorney says that's not so. >> kill that [ bl
'm not a constitutional scholar which i know shocks both of you. can john kerry be retroactively named president after president obama? >> no. >> stephanie: why not? >> because. >> stephanie: okay. >> no, he can't be. >> stephanie: fine, you're constitutional scholars but i'm not. >> the server crashed at 11:13 they bounced over to -- i don't know where they went -- but they were able to keep them from flipping the votes. that's why rove was so stunned. that's why he didn't bother to write -- >> stephanie: somebody said that. wonder if we can hack it back. maybe we did. >> that's what i called for back then. >> stephanie: except for when we did it it wasn't cheating. it was just winning. winning. drinker. what? is it too late for charlie sheenism? the headline is g.o.p.'s benghazi conspiracy falls apart. white house did not change susan rice's -- any apology to susan rice yet? >> it is not the policy. >> stephanie: for you to apologize ever? not the policy for you not to be bitter? >> clouds! >> fox news dropped ben
as secretary of state and she may not be. obama could decide to go with john kerry or jane armen or who knows who else, right? susan rice has to go up to the united states senate today and meet with -- she will, meet with john mccain and lindsey graham and a couple of other senators and try to explain herself. she shouldn't have to do that. i think it is embarrassing. kevin is calling from chicago. what do you think kevin? >> caller: hey, how do youing, bill? >> bill: good to hear from you. >> caller: if they were a legitimate news organization, wouldn't you go with the fact -- take whatever your guest says and you go with it. but since everybody knows they're the mouthpiece of the republicans, i find it amusing that they're so inept they don't even see what their guest is going to say. it is like how dumb are they? it just reinforcing the bumper sticker on my car as i drive to work this morning. fox news, the more you watch the less you know. >> bill: i like that! send me one. where did you get it? kevin, it let me t
go for an easier option, and that would be senator john kerry of massachusetts. he's someone who could, relatively speaking, glide through the senate with ease compared to susan rice at this point. it all depends on how benghazi shapes up. if it's looking like there's not going to be a big investigation, then susan rice looks like the more likely option. it all depends on how big of a fight he wants in the senate. rick: how wig of a story -- how big of a story do you think it is going to turn out to be, bebb ghazi? -- benghazi? i've heard people compare it to watergate given that no one died from watergate. as we take a look at what we know, what information we have available to us, what do you think is the potential here with this story? >> it depends because we've got a split congress. in the senate, it's run by democrats. they were having closed-door investigations last week, and a lot of democrats told me that they saw this as something that would be difficult to get to the bottom of, full of vague information and, you know, this whole fog of war thing. will we ever really kn
. after the benghazi debacle i heard more it would be john kerry because a lot of people rightly recognized that sending susan rice up there would turn it into a benghazi circus where everyone will want to be talking about benghazi. we had the press conference where the president, he's clearly very dug in on this. when i say it's arrogant, it's clear that he has just either complete contempt for the media, or just believes that he can just do whatever he wants because the idea that he would send her up there, put her under oath and have her be forced to answer these questions, and i think mccain is right, it's not about susan rice it's about the president. but he's going to put her in the line of fire. i think it just shows arrogance. it's him basically saying, look we clearly misled people, nobody seems to care so i'm going to just send her up there. martha: do you believe he intends to do that, that nothing has changed or he's been emboldened in recent weeks? >> i really read that press conference to mean he's going to nominate her. i've asked around, i don't think anybody know
over. i don't think that john kerry is really on everyone's a list anyway and they might be saying are we better off as a nation. >> gretchen: y are right. she is putting those top three republicans in a box in the meeting today. it will be difficult for them to come out now and criticize her, she is the one who offered the olive branch to come and have the meeting with them. it is nothing to do with whether or not she should be secretary of state. but the optics of this and work in her favor in a huge way today. >> steve: generally before somebody is nominated for a big job they go talk to the opposite party. it could be an explanation of why she would being up to capitol hill with mike morell. i said that because this guy's department told me to say that? >> brian: we know the cia's director said someone edited my talking points. it is more than just her side of the story. >> we would be well served to have one group of senators from all of the relative committees interview the witness and dod and department of state and cia should be interviewed so we can get the same story and
prefer john kerry, freeing up space for scott brown. susan rice has degrees from stanford and oxford. patty, republican caller. caller: i wonder if this gentleman is aware that cnn had no problem going into this embassy to find documents. it was deliberate that did not send in the fbi to investigate. this was right before an election, and this gentleman is not sure why it took so long? also, c-span should have done some in depth shows before the election. i am disappointed in how you protected president obama in comparison to the-shows when president bush was president. part of the problem in ameritech is -- in america is the media should put under their caption white house stenographer. there was also a laser with where the attacks were, and that is why he got killed. he was an absolute hero. guest: there is concern with talking points in the mainstream media, as it is called, but in my defense i have written very critical things about barack obama and his presidency over the last three years, and we try our best to be even-handed. host: rob. manassas, virginia. caller: what has bef
't go there. mitt romney would have been a genius. >> you're doing the john kerry if we picked up a basketball -- are we going to say if we picked up a mow to speed cross way attracted baja -- >> dude -- >> the winners are not the geniuses that the press set them up to be and our losers and fellow republican officials are not like the reject disaster campaigns -- >> man -- >> they're labeling mitt romney as. i'm struck by the unleashing on him. >> first of all -- >> i am too -- >> first of all, mitt romney, if he had gone quietly into that dark night, would not have been pounded as hard. >> of course. >> but mitt romney comes out and doubles down on his 47% remarks, when he confirms everybody's worst suspicions, including small government republicans who were distrustful of huge corporations. >> yeah. >> he doesn't help his cause. >> no. >> i believe you are right in that he doesn't help his cause. however, be all these guys, let's -- i'm talking about the ones i'm most struck by are the republican office holders who were -- i'm not going to. i'm not -- >> hold on. republican gove
a world where my youngest son watched john kerry in the democratic convention and asked who he was. i said he could be the secretary of state. my son said, do you mean a guy can be secretary of state? i did tell secretary clinton that very quickly. i bet she would love it. we have made huge progress. i am convinced we can do this. >> i will ask one more question, because i know we have a big crowd here. i love that story. let's talk for a moment about women and men who choose not to have children or couples who choose not to have families or same-sex couples who choose not to have families. where maybe they may not be considered to be a family. there are a lot of situations that are not the traditional situations of a mother who wants to go home with their children. we talk about making family friendly workplace rules, for example, a school day, what about those people who have chosen -- people with children are still going to be considered -- the people who do not have children, do the workplace rules of the feature -- are they discriminating against their choices? what's i think there ar
of state, just down to two, susan rice or john kerry, but hearing that might make the white house feel better. i think the president's gut has been if he were to choose, force him to choose, i think he's leaning susan rice. >> chuck todd with all the headlines from washington in morning. chuck, thank you, and once again here's matt. >> savannah, thanks. turning overseas, violence is still raging in egypt over the president's power graham grab there. nbc eayman mohyeldin is in cairo with the latest on this. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, matt. a few days ago president morrisey of egypt was receiving praise from around the world including u.s. president barack obama for brokering that cease-fire and today he's coming under criticism that puts him in conflict with the top judges that. political fight is spilling over into the streets, claiming lives and plunging the country's economy into turmoil, and more importantly it is threatening the country's post-revolutionary progress. for a fourth straight night protest efforts attacked the offices of president mohamed morsi's f
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